Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? *Pics Added*

ravingcutie · 05-23-2005, 07:51 AM

I've been playing around with how I handle the wrapped stitches of short rows. (Can you believe someone else is bringing it up again????) Anyway, I've found a great way to hide that second wrap - so much so that the wraps are pretty much invisible even on the back side. I discovered it by accident and have been using it ever since.

It's never failed me, and I want to know if it will work for others, too. So try it and tell me what kind of results you get!

I think it's pretty easy to do, too!

ETA: the pictures. I took them myself, and labeled them. I hope they're useful.

As you work your short rows, wrap the stitch as normal.

You have now knit back to your FIRST wrap:

1.) Slip the wrapped stitch off the Left needle & gently pull the wrap off the stitch. (I use my right needle to do this.)

2.) Place the original stitch back on the Left needle. Place the wrap on the Left needle as well.

3.)Knit the wrap and the original stitch as one stitch. (Like K2Tog)

I've found that it really doesn't make a difference how you slip the wrap onto the needle - it becomes invisible by the next round. In this picture of the backside of the wrap, the wrap is really loose, so you can see it. Normally, it's virtually invisible.

For the SECOND wrap:
This is worked the same way, except you reverse the position of the wrap and the original stitch.

1.) Slip the wrapped stitch off the Left needle & gently pull the wrap off the stitch. (I use my right needle to do this.)

2.) Place the original stitch on the Left needle. Then place the wrap on the Left needle After the original stitch. (This reverses the original order of the stitch and wrap.) Simply pull the wrap untwisted across the back of the work.

The original stitch and the wrap back on the Left needle.

3.)Knit the wrap and the original stitch as one stitch. (Like K2Tog)

The backside of the second wrap. Original stitch in blue, wrap in orange.

Let me know if you'd like to see pictures to make the instructions more clear! Plus, I'd love to hear what you think.

RufusBeans · 05-23-2005, 08:13 AM

ok I found my naptime activity

knittingmama · 05-23-2005, 08:14 AM

Ooh! I'd love to try this too!

pmcgary · 05-23-2005, 08:17 AM

And I committed to the EWS being my next project in line--- well right after a LTK pumpkin hat....

ravingcutie · 05-23-2005, 08:34 AM

You could try it on a swatch, Pam! Lol! It's not hard at all, and it doesn't take up much room!

chloesmom · 05-23-2005, 09:03 AM

So it's kind of like the Japanese short rows without using the pins then?

ladydemetreis · 05-23-2005, 09:16 AM

Hmm, sounds intriging! I will try it! Thanks!

pb_and_j · 05-23-2005, 10:02 AM

Hrmmm, I will have to try it too! I've got a pr of shorts to start tonight... maybe I"ll try it on them

pamelamama · 05-23-2005, 10:04 AM

I do that too!

ravingcutie · 05-23-2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamelamama @ Mon May 23, 2005 12:04 pm

I do that too!

If Pamela does it, it's gotta be good.

After further reflection (and reading about Japanese short rows here) I have concluded that my method is a combination of the wrap method and the Japanese method. I must admit I think it's better than both of these, simply because I find it easier...but I claim my opinion to be completely biased.

It's like the Japanese method, only instead of relying on a pin to mark your yarn (and pull up that loop) the wrapped stitch holds it for you. I'm kind of pin impaired, so this is much easier for me. Plus, it's one less step and one less implement that I have to worry about. And I think it's better than the traditional wrap method because I get more consistent results.

So what do you gals think? Was this a helpful post? Should I take and post pictures?

chloesmom · 05-23-2005, 12:03 PM

Quote:

I'm kind of pin impaired, so this is much easier for me.

Me too! I always seem to get the yarn stuck in the little circle at the end of the safety pin.

ravingcutie · 05-23-2005, 12:07 PM

Becky - you should get coiless safety pins. They don't have the circle at the bottom to get the yarn caught in. Most knitting stores have them for cheap!

chloesmom · 05-23-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravingcutie @ Mon May 23, 2005 11:07 am

Becky - you should get coiless safety pins. They don't have the circle at the bottom to get the yarn caught in. Most knitting stores have them for cheap!

Ahhhhhhh! Good to know! lol

chloesmom · 05-23-2005, 01:08 PM

Thanks for the "unwrapped" tip Katie! I just tried it, and it really helps!

Karma to you!

Susan_WW · 05-23-2005, 01:23 PM

This sounds cool Katie! If you get a chance I'd love to see pics

ravingcutie · 05-23-2005, 01:47 PM

Ok. I gotta dig up some yarn that isn't so dark. Right now I'm working with Earthy Rainbow overdyed on natural grey wool. It won't show up too well in the pictures.....off to make a swatch for pictures!

sugarwoman · 05-23-2005, 02:03 PM

Sounds great! I would love to see pics.

Lavenderlane · 05-23-2005, 02:57 PM

I'll have to try this next time. I usually do the Japanese method but I hate having to dig out my paperclips everytime I want to do short rows.

Knitting24/7 · 05-23-2005, 06:11 PM

I do almost the same thing
got it here

works everytime

Perogi · 05-23-2005, 08:29 PM

I would love to try this!! I'm working on a soaker now but WonderPants are next in line. I still hate those blasted short rows and basically have just learned to put up with the imperfection of it all because they are just for my kiddos.
Pictures would be very, VERY helpful! I'm a visual kind of gal

05-23-2005, 07:51 AM	#1
ravingcutie Mod Mama Fluffo's Super-Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: My Bungalow! Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 4654 Rep Power: 136	Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? Pics Added I've been playing around with how I handle the wrapped stitches of short rows. (Can you believe someone else is bringing it up again????) Anyway, I've found a great way to hide that second wrap - so much so that the wraps are pretty much invisible even on the back side. I discovered it by accident and have been using it ever since. It's never failed me, and I want to know if it will work for others, too. So try it and tell me what kind of results you get! I think it's pretty easy to do, too! ETA: the pictures. I took them myself, and labeled them. I hope they're useful. As you work your short rows, wrap the stitch as normal. You have now knit back to your FIRST wrap: 1.) Slip the wrapped stitch off the Left needle & gently pull the wrap off the stitch. (I use my right needle to do this.) 2.) Place the original stitch back on the Left needle. Place the wrap on the Left needle as well. 3.)Knit the wrap and the original stitch as one stitch. (Like K2Tog) I've found that it really doesn't make a difference how you slip the wrap onto the needle - it becomes invisible by the next round. In this picture of the backside of the wrap, the wrap is really loose, so you can see it. Normally, it's virtually invisible. For the SECOND wrap: This is worked the same way, except you reverse the position of the wrap and the original stitch. 1.) Slip the wrapped stitch off the Left needle & gently pull the wrap off the stitch. (I use my right needle to do this.) 2.) Place the original stitch on the Left needle. Then place the wrap on the Left needle After the original stitch. (This reverses the original order of the stitch and wrap.) Simply pull the wrap untwisted across the back of the work. The original stitch and the wrap back on the Left needle. 3.)Knit the wrap and the original stitch as one stitch. (Like K2Tog) The backside of the second wrap. Original stitch in blue, wrap in orange. Let me know if you'd like to see pictures to make the instructions more clear! Plus, I'd love to hear what you think. __________________ Katie - mama to Emma & Grace, Xavier Maximilian arrived 11/7! ------------------------------------------------------------ www.bungalowbuns.com handpainted yarnswoolenscustom slots*blog Tiny Tether at Knitty.com & Tiny Tether II at my blog!

05-23-2005, 08:13 AM	#2
RufusBeans Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,230 Reputation: 7583 Rep Power: 169	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? ok I found my naptime activity __________________ Hillary All New Yarn Blog http://showcasedashingdachs.blogspot.com/ http://www.dashingdachs.com http://hyenacart.com/DashingDachs

05-23-2005, 08:14 AM	#3
knittingmama Fluffo's Fiancée Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,089 Reputation: 2523 Rep Power: 65	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? Ooh! I'd love to try this too! __________________ Cathy- Momma to DD 08/02 and DS 05/07

05-23-2005, 08:17 AM	#4
pmcgary Mod McGary USM Queen Fluffo's Fiancée Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Greater Kansas City area Posts: 8,174 Reputation: 11615 Rep Power: 319	And I committed to the EWS being my next project in line--- well right after a LTK pumpkin hat.... __________________ PamM http://www.xanga.com/gorillakeeper (see my 'pictures a day ') "Knitting is learnt by doing, not by thinking, and it is far better understood with the fingers than with the head." Montse Stanley Creating & Knitting Your Own Designs For a Perfect Fit Critical Thought....The other national deficit.

05-23-2005, 08:34 AM	#5
ravingcutie Mod Mama Fluffo's Super-Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: My Bungalow! Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 4654 Rep Power: 136	You could try it on a swatch, Pam! Lol! It's not hard at all, and it doesn't take up much room! __________________ Katie - mama to Emma & Grace, Xavier Maximilian arrived 11/7! ------------------------------------------------------------ www.bungalowbuns.com handpainted yarnswoolenscustom slots*blog Tiny Tether at Knitty.com & Tiny Tether II at my blog!

05-23-2005, 09:03 AM	#6
chloesmom Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 627 Reputation: 1066 Rep Power: 33	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? So it's kind of like the Japanese short rows without using the pins then? __________________ BeckyB mommy to Emily (14), Noah (9), Matthew (6), and Chloe (4)

05-23-2005, 09:16 AM	#7
ladydemetreis Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VT Posts: 5,253 Reputation: 13663 Rep Power: 331	Hmm, sounds intriging! I will try it! Thanks! __________________ ~Rachel~ My Blog

05-23-2005, 10:02 AM	#8
pb_and_j Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,123 Reputation: 3345 Rep Power: 83	Hrmmm, I will have to try it too! I've got a pr of shorts to start tonight... maybe I"ll try it on them __________________ ~Julie~ Mama to Parker ( and Bret (6) and Baby JT (5 mo!)~ The Cushie Tushie

05-23-2005, 10:04 AM	#9
pamelamama Your Host Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: woolywonder.com Posts: 8,237 Reputation: 6915 Rep Power: 226	I do that too! __________________ Updated Perfection Pants and WonderPants Patterns available! See this announcement for deals! Pamela, mama to Sam and Eli, wife to Scott blog \| fiber arts avengers \| wooly wonder soaker discussion forum \| knit your own darn soakers \| boutique flickr \| facebook \| twitter \| ravelry knit your own darn soaker.

05-23-2005, 12:07 PM	#12
ravingcutie Mod Mama Fluffo's Super-Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: My Bungalow! Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 4654 Rep Power: 136	Becky - you should get coiless safety pins. They don't have the circle at the bottom to get the yarn caught in. Most knitting stores have them for cheap! __________________ Katie - mama to Emma & Grace, Xavier Maximilian arrived 11/7! ------------------------------------------------------------ www.bungalowbuns.com handpainted yarnswoolenscustom slots*blog Tiny Tether at Knitty.com & Tiny Tether II at my blog!

05-23-2005, 01:08 PM	#14
chloesmom Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 627 Reputation: 1066 Rep Power: 33	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? Thanks for the "unwrapped" tip Katie! I just tried it, and it really helps! Karma to you! __________________ BeckyB mommy to Emily (14), Noah (9), Matthew (6), and Chloe (4)

05-23-2005, 01:23 PM	#15
Susan_WW <b>Mod Mama</b> Fluffo's Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Knitting up a storm! Posts: 2,543 Reputation: 956 Rep Power: 50	This sounds cool Katie! If you get a chance I'd love to see pics __________________ Susan WAHM to Nicole 2 yrs, Samantha 5 mos, wife to John My Blog Wonderful Woolies

05-23-2005, 01:47 PM	#16
ravingcutie Mod Mama Fluffo's Super-Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: My Bungalow! Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 4654 Rep Power: 136	Ok. I gotta dig up some yarn that isn't so dark. Right now I'm working with Earthy Rainbow overdyed on natural grey wool. It won't show up too well in the pictures.....off to make a swatch for pictures! __________________ Katie - mama to Emma & Grace, Xavier Maximilian arrived 11/7! ------------------------------------------------------------ www.bungalowbuns.com handpainted yarnswoolenscustom slots*blog Tiny Tether at Knitty.com & Tiny Tether II at my blog!

05-23-2005, 02:03 PM	#17
sugarwoman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 280 Reputation: 1830 Rep Power: 44	Sounds great! I would love to see pics. __________________ Stephanie- mama to Cate, Emma, Alice and Spencer

05-23-2005, 02:57 PM	#18
Lavenderlane Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 270 Reputation: 208 Rep Power: 12	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? I'll have to try this next time. I usually do the Japanese method but I hate having to dig out my paperclips everytime I want to do short rows. __________________ Sarah Sweet Pea Soakers

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Knitting24/7 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 275 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 8	Re: Who wants to try my UNWRAPPED technique???? I do almost the same thing got it here works everytime __________________ NAK family \| projects \| blog

05-23-2005, 08:29 PM	#20
Perogi Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,365 Reputation: 5646 Rep Power: 141	I would love to try this!! I'm working on a soaker now but WonderPants are next in line. I still hate those blasted short rows and basically have just learned to put up with the imperfection of it all because they are just for my kiddos. Pictures would be very, VERY helpful! I'm a visual kind of gal __________________ Melissa ~ SAHM for three: dd 5 dd 3 ds 1 year old!

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