How to READ a pattern WRONG :P

[Quinlonsma]

I quote

Increase Round: *K1, M1, k1, p2; repeat from * around - 60sts
Ribbing: Work in k3, p2 rib as established until Ribbed Top measures 2 1/2"

End Quote

Luckily both 5 and 6 go evenly into 60 but it's just dumb and not the first MAJOR mistake on this pattern. UGH!

[twouglyducks]

I'm not seeing the problem? WHat am I missing?

[pmcgary]

I'm not seeing the problem? WHat am I missing?

don't know but I am missing it too? Maybe you have to 'be there'???

[pamelamama]

Uh, that sounds sorta familiar! I s that a soaker pattern?

[earthwhisper]

k1, m1, k1, p2 = 5 stitches
k3, p2 = 5 stitches

Did you just type it wrong here?

[littleturtlemama]

yeah, I'm totally not seeing the badly written part there.

[susanjp]

I don't get the problem either.

[Perogi]

I saw this thread before anyone else had responded and I didn't see the problem but I was sure that I must have been missing something so I didn't post :LOL

[khogue]

Did you M1 by knitting front and back of stitch?


I quote

Increase Round: *K1, M1, k1, p2; repeat from * around - 60sts
Ribbing: Work in k3, p2 rib as established until Ribbed Top measures 2 1/2"

End Quote

Luckily both 5 and 6 go evenly into 60 but it's just dumb and not the first MAJOR mistake on this pattern. UGH!

[marnie]

I saw this thread before anyone else had responded and I didn't see the problem but I was sure that I must have been missing something so I didn't post :LOL

i did the same thing, except i assumed she didn't write enough of the pattern for me to see the mistake, so i was waiting for her to edit.

[eden/averymum]

same here. I read it and thought I was to dense and ignorant to understand.

[Quinlonsma]

:sigh: maybe I'm wrong :chair

IF you knit 1 then make 1 then knit 1 doesn't that equal 4

don't you knit a stitch then you knit front and back on THE NEXT STITCH then knit another stitch.

maybe I should rename this BADLY READ PATTERNS :LOL

[Quinlonsma]

Uh, that sounds sorta familiar! I s that a soaker pattern?

NOPE! It's a christmas Stocking from Handknit Holidays. This pattern has been supa buggy all the way through. When I went to check for errata I found there is none. But on three different baords there were posts about four other "wrong" patterns.

When I looked for reviews on the book everyone who SAW it loved it but everyone that TRIED TO KNIT from it had problems :(

I thin I may be spoiled by all the wonderful patterns and super available help from the Super Snazzy and Wnderful WAHM's here.

[Perogi]

nope! just 3 stitches - there are more ways than just k1fb to increase. If you want to use that technique k1fb and then k1 - that way you knit the first stitch normally, knit into the back to make 1 and knit the next stitch normally - 3 stitches :pink

[twouglyducks]

Yep, just 3 stitches. You the 2 you knit and the 1 you make. :) You can Kfab or use the backwards loop method.

[pmcgary]

My poncho pattern calls for k5, *knit 4 m1* repeat to last five stitches k5....

Didn't say what M1 to use and I had been using hte k1f and b...Took me a few seconds to figure out that I needed to knit into the back of the 4th stitch....

I really don't mind ignoring a pattern's directions I don't like - but it bugs me to no end when they don't give me a CLUE as to what they want me to do ...

I kid you not, the border directions are "work six rows of border of your choice"....

well you kno you could just about say....knit poncho of your choice with the lack of instruction I was given....

[littleturtlemama]

well, not to be persnickety, but "m1" IS a specific increase method. It's EZ's backwards loop increase, where you just make a loop on your thumb and pop it ont he needle. If it were a knit front and back it would say that (well, any GOOD pattern would ;)) and if it were a lifted increase, it should say that as well. But just plain m1 is usually the easy, simple loop :)

[twouglyducks]

I thought so, just wasn't sure. :)

[Perogi]

Good to know! :thumb

[Quinlonsma]

well I'm not rippin it out again!!

UGH!

Thanks ladies.

[KaliD]

well, not to be persnickety, but "m1" IS a specific increase method. It's EZ's backwards loop increase, where you just make a loop on your thumb and pop it ont he needle. If it were a knit front and back it would say that (well, any GOOD pattern would ;)) and if it were a lifted increase, it should say that as well. But just plain m1 is usually the easy, simple loop :)

And here I come with another definition LOL.
I've seen M1 reference what I'm gonna ass*ume you are calling a lifted increase... Where you take the bar between two stitches and lift/twist to make another stitch. Twist one way you have a hole, twist the opposite way you've got a hidden stitch, if that makes sense.

This is why I like books and patterns that have an appendix or someother way of *showing* you all the techniques beyond, K and P they have included in their pattern.

Amy, I hope you have a better time with this pattern and get it all worked out :) And it doesn't cause you any more frustrations!

[pmcgary]

And here I come with another definition LOL.
I've seen M1 reference what I'm gonna ass*ume you are calling a lifted increase... Where you take the bar between two stitches and lift/twist to make another stitch. Twist one way you have a hole, twist the opposite way you've got a hidden stitch, if that makes sense.

This is why I like books and patterns that have an appendix or someother way of *showing* you all the techniques beyond, K and P they have included in their pattern.

Amy, I hope you have a better time with this pattern and get it all worked out :) And it doesn't cause you any more frustrations!

It doesn't seem that many pattern writers adhere to any sort of 'standard' definitions for a lot of things......I know I used the M1 (left and right) in the essentials bag pattern...when my mom reviewed it she thought I should change it to I1 - She read it as m1 is a specfic technic and increase one meant....do whatever you like to increase.......

I just think that if someone is writing a pattern and using terms that mean different things to different people they should define them so we know what 'they' mean.....

[Quinlonsma]

Since this thread I've been thinking about the other "mistakes" in the pattern.

Sigh, they weren't mistakes. They were directions that weren't written well. I couldn't understand them. Once I spent a COUPLE OF DAYS working it out now they make sense.

It is a neat pattern and the stuff I didn't understand is actually pretty spiffy. And a much BETTER way than the way I was doing it ;)

Which is GOOD because I have another 29 of these suckers to knit up :lol !!!

[Perogi]

29! :faint Good luck!

[eden/averymum]

cooo, the next 29 should go much more smoothely.