Ok so this is interesting...

[blueheaven]

First of all, I am an obssessive lurker. I work midnights and they allow me on the computer but I am pretty shy so I read EVERYWHERE.

MDC, Xangas, LiveJournals, Babycenter.. just stuff. all the time.

But I dont post much.

But, I did see the uproar over the fetish website and I just saw a post on the Attachment Parenting board at Babycenter that is kinda interesting. Ill cut and past and link but the link will just go to the page not the post, but either way, you all might be interested. I am not going to post it at Mothering cause thats such a bigger place, and I dont post there much I wouldnt want them being like "who the heck are you!!" and it will probably get there eventually anyway... but the main point of this post is it looks like SOME regulatory agency got involved because "he" mentions getting their gallery up to standards.

so anyway ...

OK now i need to straithen a LOT of things out.
Oh and if anyone is wonderring i am a member of that site i go by the name of necros and i am not achamed of telling so do you know why?
1. This site is no fetish site for people that know nothing of this it might seam to be one but let me explain the situation people like you and me when they are young have an experience whereas they see or afto wear diapers for whatever reason and this triggers a very deep feeling of nurture and peace this is called "infantilism" this just means that the person in question gets to be attached to a certain item most popular may be the diaper but for some its just toys and such BUT this is in no way a fetish because fetishes are a thing that a human being develops after puburty while infantilism accurs at about 4 to 5 years old whitch means most of us have no sexual pleasure doing this it puts us just in a peacefull position that only a child can experience ... now your probably going to say "What about the photos why all infants of such young age are depicted there?" Well pretty simple really when we see a child in diapers or playing with a toy or whatever well we dont think of that as sexual we only think back when we were in that young age care free and peacefull and we dream, that is all we are basically putting ourselves in the pictures we see BUT IN NO WAY WILL WE HARM A CHILD!!! that would mean hurting ourselves in the process we only find these pictures cute and funny by times but in no way are we sexually attracted to them and i cant stress that enough.
2. Now for the issue of finding your photos of your children on this site well the site admin as now prohibited any uncopyrighted photos from being uploaded (whitch i think is a good thing) and right now we are all going over the galery and even the ones in the payed area and deleting those who have not meant the criteria so you can rest your heads tonight because this wont be hapenning again i make sure of it i do myself the security and if anything looks fishy i will take action but for now we are fixing it so that it meets legal requirements. If you need any info on infantilism the why's the how's anything just email me at earth_jimmy@yahoo.com and i will be glad to help. May there be peace not war between anyone!

There is an email address too... if anyone had problems personally.
here is the link to the thread, looks like a few of them from that site have gone there to post. http://bbs.babycenter.com/board/baby/babyfamily/5812/thread/2240384?i=10#go

I hope you dont think I am just spreading drama (although it is kinda drama), I just thought the bit about them meeting legal requirements was ... hopeful? Cant think of the word I really want to use there but ...

[whitecalx]

Perhaps he doesn't sexualize it, perhaps 99% of them don't sexualize it but obviously some people do. That's what disturbs me. If someone sees my cute kid and wishes they could be as happy and loved as my children are then that is totally understandable.
But from the comments some people made its most definitely sexual to some of them.

[blueheaven]

I totally agree! The point I was trying to make is it sounds like somewhere, some authority is coming down on them, and tons of people called their police and sex crimes units and stuff right?

I wanted to post something along the lines of... this guy is a webmaster, he never meets 99.9999% of the people who go to his site. He has absolutely NO! idea what they are doing looking at those pictures or why they are doing it. He has no place at all to say that he is "for sure" its not sexual. Sadly, I bet it is in some cases.

But I wonder what enforcement agency came down on them. I hope it really was something like that that got involved. I hope everyones efforts to contact authorities werent wasted.

back to work.. :(

[CraftyMommaOf2]

that really is interesting. thank you for posting it, erin. :hug

[pmcgary]

Okay, I just want to say a couple of quick things...preface this by knowing I am 'trained' in counseling psychology....

I have been searching the 'net a bit trying to find out if what this guy says about infantilism is accurate....I have not come up with it listed anywhere as a fetish/paraphilia in clinical diagnostic setting....BUT I still take issue with a couple of things that he said.....

While I am not promoting myself as an 'expert' on psychology....I just would point out that this guy isn't either...what he says is anecdotal and not necessarily factual.....

FIRST of all I don't recall being taught that paraphilias/fetishes don't appear before puberty. I think that would require us to believe that we are not 'sexual' before then. And there are plenty of 'kids' committing illegal/immoral sexual acts that have not yet reached puberty.

Now whether that 'feeling' he describes is sexually arousing for him - isn't anything I care to explore. But I am going to make a wager that he doesn't have what we would consider to be a 'normal' sex life. (Or he wouldn't have this 'comfort' need - sexual or not)

I would agree that people who practice this 'infantilism' are not likely to be a threat to our kids...BUT people who are likely to be a threat to kids would likely find this site (and others) very arousing to THIER fetish/pedophilia etc.....

And there is also that issue of copyright. I don't care what a website is doing...to promote the taking of pictures off of other sites without permission just makes my blood boil.

And you know even if the guy just 'feels good' thinking about babying and diapers doesn't give him the right to 'use' other kids' pictures to get that feeling. (And I don't give a crap whether it is just 'feeling good' or 'sexually satisfying')

[CraftyMommaOf2]

don't get me wrong, it repulses me, but it's one of those "what are you gonna do" kind of things.

[pmcgary]

don't get me wrong, it repulses me, but it's one of those "what are you gonna do" kind of things.

I think you are probably right that there isn't a lot that can be done....I am also of the opinion that going after the copyright issue is a better way of going at it than the 'this is disgusting' ...(Copyright with photos like that seems pretty objective to me whereas 'disgusting' is still pretty subjective.)

[CraftyMommaOf2]

copyright violation is an excellent avenue for this to be taking, imnsho. :nod

[hunnybumm]

I think almost everything that guy said in his post is a bunch of BS. All you have to do is read a couple random posts and you will see that way to many people aren't there for 'comfort'. People were posting very disturbing topics. Like trying to find "more information" on specific children, asking if anyone knew where the child was from, some asked very specific information, like neighborhood, street, etc. Others wanted more pictures of a particular child. I am sure the 'infantism' the guy talked about is what he is saying it is, innocent. However, it is very clear that most of the people on that site are not there for that reason. Like I mentioned above people were being very disgusting on some of the posts, I don't even want to go into what some of their were about. I don't think I saw 1 or 2 posts on the page I looked at that was appropriate for the type of site this guy claims he is trying to create.

Thank you for posting this. Hopefully someone is keeping an eye on his web site and will contiune to moniter it. Sadly, like a pp said, what can you do? I went through and deleted every picture of my son off of any picture web site. Even Yahoo Photo where it was password protected. I won't feel comfortable until we get our own server up and running, so I know my pictures will be secure.

[Native Mama]

Perhaps he doesn't sexualize it, perhaps 99% of them don't sexualize it but obviously some people do. That's what disturbs me. If someone sees my cute kid and wishes they could be as happy and loved as my children are then that is totally understandable.
But from the comments some people made its most definitely sexual to some of them.

My thoughts exactley Megan! Well said! :arwyn
And my other thought would be like Honeybumm is stating pictures personal ones are being taken and this is NOT ok ever.