Increasing...

[ladydemetreis]

HI,
I may be missing something here, but, I'm trying to knit Pam's pattern and I need to increase for the hips. Its states that I need to increase evenly the first row, but, I don't understand how do I know where to put the stitches on this correctly? I used the even increase calculator:http://www.fromthehartle.freeservers.com/KnittingPatterns/EvenIncreaseCalculator.html
I think I would just be using the measurements given, but just on the first row after the ribbing is done??
My st are: 100 for the waist, and increase to 20 for the hips. Anyhelp would be appreciated!!

[littleturtlemama]

do you mean increase to 120 (not 20) fo rthe hips? If so, then you'll increase one stitch every 5 stitches (so, either knit 5, make 1, or knit 4, knit front and back of next stitch)

[pamelamama]

wasn't that what the even increase calculator told you, hon?

[ladydemetreis]

I'm not too sure on how I was supposed to do it. I was'nt sure if I was increasing correctly or not, and I think I may have it through the even increase calculator but I needed it a bit more clarified.
K3, M1,
*(K5 M1)* 19 times,
K2

These are the directions given to me by the calculator. My question is, this is all done on that first row after I'm done with the ribbing??
If so, I just simply finish knitting row after row till I get to the decrease for the leg holes? Wow, I cannot beleive I'm just not getting this!!!
Sorry folks!!! Somethings need to be written out for my brain to comprehend!!!

[ladydemetreis]

Ok,
After further confusing myself, I may have given the wrong st amounts here...
I got a gauge of 5.75, 23 st per 4".
w=21
h=22
r=21
t=13
Because I was going to get an uneven amount, I think it was Beth that told me I could just use this formula: CO 100 st for the waist, then increase to 20st(maybe 120).
BUt, to further complicate matters, in trying to calculate my stitch amount for the increase using my hips measurements, that was 22 st.
Well, anyways, this is what I just got from the calculator once more...
K2, M1,
*(K5 M1)* 6 times,
*(K4 M1)* 9 times,
*(K5 M1)* 6 times,
K2
That was from the 100st, and increasing to 122(22 for the hips)
So, will I be doing this one or the first one?
Sorry, when it comes to these thought processes, I'm completely at a loss, I'm not doing this on purpose!!! :roll:

[pmcgary]

Your start measurement/calculation of 100 is correct.....BUT when you do the math for the hip increase...
it is the number of stitches in your gauge times the inches around your babe's hips....
5.75 times 22 = 126.5 (126)

If you only increase 22 stitches you may be okay or you may be a bit tight on her....since 4 stitches is nearly an inch for you.

[ladydemetreis]

I'm not too sure why it would be tight though if that is her hip measurement? I'm so confused....

[pamelamama]

She also needs to have the stitch number be a multiple of four for our pattern.

Where are you now, Rach?

[pmcgary]

should she do 124 or 128? Or will 120 be "close enough"?

[pamelamama]

I'd say 124 or 128.

[pmcgary]

So would the final decision best come down to how accurately one believes the measurement was? (I really sometimes question my ability to accurately measure anything...let alone on a small child.)

I suppose the other way to look at it would be that 128 would give a bit extra GROW room that you wouldn't get with 124, right?

[ladydemetreis]

Ok,
Here's where I'm at now, I started the ribbing and I'm still not too sure with which measurement I should go with for the hips?
I'm using CO100 st.

[BethyM99]

I'd go for 128, as the pattern says better too big than too small!! Keep notes as you go so you can adjust anything you don't like for next time...

So, if you're increasing from 100 to 128 the calculator gives:
K3, M1,
*(K4 M1)* 7 times,
*(K3 M1)* 13 times,
*(K4 M1)* 7 times,
K2

Does that help? :)

[pmcgary]

I just wanted to be sure that someone had addressed all your questions about what you are doing or want to be doing.....

You said you CO 100 and are doing the ribbing right? That is fine (I don't remember are you using smaller sized needles?) That should be all right for your child's waist measurement....

When you complete the ribbing ...the first row of the body is where you will do your increases. And you should increase to the number of stitches indicated by that hip measurement. (after doing the math in an earlier post -- you would increase and additional 24 OR 28 stitches --- to keep it dvisible by 4 - which I forgot in my first post about this--- ooops)

Once you get that increase - you are done with math for a bit and can just enjoy the knitting.....

I hope I didn't confuse you further! Keep asking questions as you have them!

[ladydemetreis]

Thats ok, Pam! I don't think it was you at all that confused me..its just me! LOL

Yes, I have co 100 st. I just had to pullout my ribbing that I started cause somehow my st count was off..

I guess I'll do the 24 increase. So, when I do approach the caluclator once again, I will put it, 100 st, then just 24? Or do I eter in 100 st. and 124???

[ravingcutie]

Use 100 & 124 to get:
K2, M1,
*(K5 M1)* 2 times,
*(K4 M1)* 19 times,
*(K5 M1)* 2 times,
K2

[ravingcutie]

Cool calculator - thanks for the link!

[ladydemetreis]

Actually I had it from Pam's class!! Ok, I will do as you said then! Thanks!!

[ladydemetreis]

Ok, can I ask one more ?

I plan on sizing up on the needles and although I haven't a problem with that, amoung also doing the increasing, I will be changing the color to a seperate color I have dyed and set aside.

Maybe this would be easier when trying to do the increase? What do you think?? Is there a special way to do this?

[pmcgary]

It is a lot to keep track of...but it can all be done. The changing colors isn't really a big deal. You just start with the new color at the beginning of the round. You would just use the bigger needle and knit the stitches off the smaller onto the larger....Just remember to do those increases.....I tend to get into a rhythm and forget what I am doing.

[ladydemetreis]

Ok, as I'm starting knitting on the new needles,and the increases, am I do just start increasing with the new yarn? Or do I do that first round on the new needles but same color first? Then add the new color? Whew! I know, I'm a questionaholic!!! :lookroun:

[pmcgary]

There isn't any RULE. You can do which ever way you think will work best for you.

I would go ahead and do it the same round...That way your first row of stockinette stitch is the same color as those that follow.And you will see when you get to the end of that round at you will be back at the first stitch of the new color (and the end of stitches on the smaller needle.)

[ladydemetreis]

Ty, for all your help!!

I think I'm getting this! Ok, so, I'm going to start by changing my needles size first and perform the increases? Or, I'm starting the new color and the new needles at the same time??
Also, if I'm doing the increasing, with the new color, won't it look funny would it show two different colors on that row?? I've never done this, I jsaust haven't a clue....

[Arwyn]

My dad always told me that there's no such thing as a stupid question. I would add that asking questions is not only not a sign of stupidity but is indeed a sign of courage.

And it keeps the rest of us with the same problems from having to ask! ;)

[ladydemetreis]

:lookroun:
Thanks! You just made me feel mush better!! I was starting to think I was the only one here having this problem!!!
BTW,
I just finished my increases, now to start adding my new color!!!

[ladydemetreis]

So far so good...added the color after the increases and it looks pretty good!! Once I get more done of the soaker body, I'll take a pic of my funky colored soaker for you all to see!!! :sigh: