Hmmmm....What do you all think?

[cozystitches]

About this email. Its from the seller that I got a pair of Addi turbos from....what do you think?

Hi, I am Jeff.wonderland. For some reason, I can not sell Addi needles via ebay. But you can order needles for me by email directly.
And I am 100% promise that you will receive the needles you order is in good condition.
The price list is in following:



Addi Circular Needle (silver) Art 105
40 / 60 / 80cm 2 - 3.5mm : US$5.5
3.75 - 4mm : US$6
4.5 - 5mm : US$7
5.5 - 7mm : US$8
8mm : US$8.5
9 - 10mm : US$9
12 - 15mm : US$14
Addi Crochet Hook 15cm
Art 245 2 - 3.5mm : US$4.25
4 - 5mm : US$4.5
Art 445 6 - 7mm : US$4.5
8mm : US$5
9 - 10mm : US$6
Addi Flexible needle Art NR 181 - 7
50cm 2 - 3.5mm : US$6
3.75 - 4mm : US$6.5
4.5 - 5mm : US$7
5.5 - 7mm : US$8
8mm : US$8.5

if more than 50 pairs of needles, pls chat for the wholesale price.


Hugs,
tammy

[Sabrina]

hmmm....sounds a little fishy. But that might just be me.

[averymybaby]

My radar goes off when they don't use correct punctuation or grammar. :emb

[cozystitches]

English isn't his first language..my wondering was about the "I can't sell on ebay anymore" statement...I'd like to know why..kwim? Would eBay tell me anything if I contacted them??

Hugs,
tammy

[pmcgary]

I wonder if he sells other stuff on ebay - could you see what kind of feedback there is?

[marnie]

as the wife of a non-native english speaking business owner (and as someone who herself lived for a long time in a country using a language not native to me) i think you need to judge if it's sloppy writing (poor attention to detail) or a weak grasp of the english language.

aside from that, my concern is the "for some reason i can no longer sell on ebay" thing. i'd ask him why he's not allowed to sell them on ebay and then confirm it with either Addi or Ebay or whoever is preventing him from selling them via auction.

my thought is: if he can't sell on ebay, is he allowed to sell directly to you? you know what i mean?

[pamelamama]

Addis probably doesn't allow it.

[pmcgary]

Well there are other sellers with Addis listed...but maybe one of them is his supplier and they don't allow it?

[ladydemetreis]

:lurk

[Ruth]

I think it's probably addi too - remember what Jess said about them not letting her have them to sell online? I know ebay don't let you solicit custom outside ebay either though so he's riding for a fall either way really :(

[Knitting24/7]

someone was just tlking about this is my knitting in WI group.
I guess the story goes Addi counterfeits were being sold on Ebay so Addi will not let any be posted there.
So i would be wary

[cozystitches]

:faint so..how would I know if I have fake addis??? I have 4 pairs now, and they all pretty much seem the same...any tips??
thank you very much for the info, I'll not be buying from them anytime soon..

Hugs,
tammy

[mamaofthreeboys]

Oh gosh yeah I'd like to know as well if anyone has any tips (to see if mine are the "real" or the fake ones) :ohno

[Knitting24/7]

I am searching thru the archives now...but need to go thru 110768 of them. I will post as soon as i find it

[Ruth]

I don't think fakes would have the size stamped on the cable and I also don't think the cable would be as flexible jmho though.

[Knitting24/7]

ok it turns out there are only 2 tiny ways you can tell.
first off the packaging is written in german and second the sizes are stamped on the needles.

[chloesmom]

ok it turns out there are only 2 tiny ways you can tell.
first off the packaging is written in german and second the sizes are stamped on the needles.

The real ones are that way, or the fake ones are that way?

[Knitting24/7]

The real ones are that way, or the fake ones are that way?
the imposter ones have the stamp and the packaging printed in german.
I looked at sll my addis and i dont have either on mine

[ravingcutie]

My Addi Turbos that I bought from LYS were written in English and have no stamp on the needles. There might be one on the wire, but I haven't looked closely at it.

So did we order from the guy and were they good or bad?

My thought is, if you can get good needles at a good price, then it's a good thing!

[chloesmom]

My packages are written in English and German and there is a stamp on the wire but not the needles themselves.

I know that at least one of mine came from that seller, so if mine are all fakes, the one I bought from him is a fake too.

[ravingcutie]

Becky - I think you have the real thing. Now that you say the package was written in both, I think mine were too. I don't have them anymore, but I know there was English on them!

So is anyone thinking about ordering from this guy? Where is he located?

[cozystitches]

He's located in HongKong (I think). I have ordered from him in the past (through eBay) but now with the issues with possible fakes and him not selling addis on eBay has be wanting to proceed cautiously. So, I'm not planning on ordering from him (even though the prices rock!)...<sigh>..I checked all my Addis and they are all real, including the ones I got from him, so he could possibly be legit, but I'm not willing to spend $$ and risk it. If anyone wants the email he sent to me, PM me and I'll fwd it to you. :)

Hugs,
tammy

[Knitting24/7]

I just got am email from someone who called Skackel directly.
They said that those ar not fakes. and that they have 2 places where they make them. I would contact Skackel and ask if he is a licensed distributor.

[Quinlonsma]

I have some I got in vegas with the size on the needle does that mean they are fakes?

[mamapez]

I have some I got in vegas with the size on the needle does that mean they are fakes?

I got size 3-11 from patternworks.com all in the same order. Some have stamps on the needle, some have stamps on the cable, and some have neither??? They have all seemed to be the same and to be great quality, so I won't worry about it too much. :)

[Quinlonsma]

oh good :sigh

[triciarn]

I have actually purchased from him on ebay. I got size 7 12 inch circulars for $9 shipping included. They were shipped from Hong Kong and I recieved them in 3 weeks over the christmas holiday. I had priced them at my LYS and they cost $16 + tax :faint .

As to the size stamping I have bought all my others (20+pair) from my LYS and they are sometimes stamped on the cord and sometimes on the needle itself. The pair I got from him was stamped on the cord however, the cardboard inside the package was black and gold in color whereas my others have been blue.

Hope this gives you some more info.

Tricia

[Knitting24/7]

I am forwarding this email because I think it is very important pertaining this subject.


Hi
I really don't want to start any kind of "war" or anything as I know
we have some lovely vendors on this (and other) lists and I think
they were getting hurt by the Addi's on Ebay. Their suppliers were
telling them about the 'fakes" etc and there was a bit of a panic I
think for the vendors losing business (how in the world could they
compete when THEY paid more than they were sold for on Ebay)plus
they had their suppliers expecting them to sell only "Turbos"
Now that is the word that is causing the problem. "Turbo"
(Just to clarify this - my SIL's brother is an executive at Skacel
company and I did verify this with him)
The ones sold on Ebay (there was one person selling needles as
Addi's but not in package -but stated as new - that I would
question) are sold as "Addi's" not Addi Turbo. There is a difference
but it is in name only.
Turbo is a registered trademark of the Skacel company. They import
the needles from Germany (the SAME needle) and then have their logo
on the packaging - "Turbo"
An "Addi" is an "Addi" is an "Addi"
but a "Turbo" is marketed by the Skacel company.

Just as most VCR's are "made" by only a couple of companies, they
are marketed and renamed by whomever imports and sells them.

Having said that - Skacel would not have to replace a needle not
sold by them (even though they are selling the same needle under
another name) just as Sony would not have to replace your Toshiba
VCR if it broke (I believe they are made by the same manufacturer)

You will find some needles have printing on the cables, some
stamped on the shaft - but that is with both the Addi and the Turbo,
depending on when they were produced.

As for the one with the short needle - I have no idea why that
happened -unless it was a long 20" (they make that length) or it was
the ones without "Addi' packaging.
I have a couple that I bought on Ebay and laid them side by side
(the same size and length) and there was absolutely NO difference.
I have used the ones I bought a lot - and have had no problems with
them at all - no snagging at joins - or unweildly cables. Actually
the one I would like to toss in the garbage is a Turbo with cord
that is horrid. If I had not paid so darn much for it - I would put
it in the "circular" file.
I do have a number of Addi's = but I have started replacing them
with another brand that I much prefer and are much cheaper (unless
from Ebay)
Anyway - I hope this info helps with the fear that you have a fake -
you probably don't - it just wouldn't have the "Turbo" name on the
packaging (if you are one that does not keep their needles in the
package - you would never know. Turbo is not on the needle itself
anyway)

[ShannonM]

There's a thread about this over at knitters review with a skacel rep posting. He said that they have "shut down" this man and another seller. I assume they're just prohibiting them from selling addis to the US through ebay. He said that these are not fakes, they were just bought to be sold somewhere else. I think part of the problem is the competition issue - it's tough for the US sellers to charge so much when you can get them on ebay for a much lower price.

I wouldn't worry about getting fakes though.

[ravingcutie]

I looked at all of my addis today - all purchased at the high, US price from brick and mortar stores. Most had no stamps whatsoever and one had an unreadable stamp on the cable.

My question is why are they so much more expensive to us in the US? It doesn't make sense. I don't want to hurt the LYSes or US dealers, but it seems like the distributor is price gouging the US customers/reps because they can. That kinda upsets me.

Knitting24/7 - what kind of needles does your emailer prefer?

[ravingcutie]

Here's a link to similar topics at Knitter's Review:
http://knittersreview.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28190

http://knittersreview.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21258

[Knitting24/7]

Knitting24/7 - what kind of needles does your emailer prefer?
She said she has been working lately with her crystal palace (i think bamboo) circs.
thats a huge "feel" difference imo right there

[ravingcutie]

Thanks. I would think bamboos would be super different in feel.

Someone at Knitter's Review suggested Inox Express as a similiar alternative, at a lower price.

I was reading that second link and there is a rep from Skacel on there. He is really nice and gave a lot of information about their needles. Apparently, they're all hand made (everyone who works at their plant knits) and carry a lifetime guarantee, from the company. Which when you use your needles as much as I do, might actually be worth the price hike. However, that guarantee is only from the US dealers!